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We
will disclose numerous occasions where Patterson claims
to be a Vietnam Veteran, right up until May 2008 when,
he had painted himself into a corner and was being hard
pressed for proof of his claims.
He
wrote:
“I
served as a terminal operator on the HMAS Sydney
(loading and unloading of the ship) was taken to
Vietnam in 1966 under the command of a Major Fletcher
(Terminal officer), We never disembarked from the
ship..... and upon return I was utilised by Small ships
as a supernumerary (topside) on the Clive Steele 1966”
“33/30
Port squadron loaded/unloaded HMAS Sydney both in Sydney
and VungTau under the command of a Major Fletcher. We
never disembarked from the ship as soon as unloaded we
returned to Australia”
Major
Bruce Fletcher did not travel to Vietnam on HMAS Sydney
in 1966 or any other time. He traveled by air to Vietnam
departing Sydney on the 19 April 1966, three days before
HMAS Sydney left Australia. Major Fletcher remained in
Vietnam until 17 June 1967.
Patterson further said.
“I
wrote to CARO in September, 2007 asking why my name was
not on the nominal roll etc I had given them all the
particulars in my letter, I received a telephone call
Christmas 2007 that they were investigating my claim,
and would get back to me (so far nothing heard but who
cares anyway.”
Jim
says he contacted Central Army Records Office (CARO) in
late 2007 asking why his name isn’t on the Department of
Veterans Affairs (DVA) nominal roll, and an
investigation is underway. He says he is gathering
affidavits from men in the same situation as proof of
the records omissions. These were men who served with 32
Small Ships. Other Army personnel posted to HMAS Sydney
(as he claims to have been}, don’t seem to have this
problem.
Here
is a novel wannabe statement put into writing by
Patterson. Can you imagine a military parade where
counterfeit medals were handed out? It may sound OK to
civilians but genuine veterans recognize Patterson’s
stupidity.
“Just
for your information and that of other I was presented
with two medals at a passing out parade at HMAS Penguin,
we noticed that the medals were not inscribed and we
then told them to stick them if they couldn’t put our
names on them, and if you want to look there are about
12 medals at the bottom of the Sydney harbour (opposite
the ORs dry mess) where we threw
them.
“I’m not in the nominal roll either are other CMF
personnel whom served on the ships”
Patterson was a contributor to an Internet Profile site.
See below how he describes himself as “Vietnam
Veteran Royal Australian Engineers RAE.” In addition
although it is not our concern he also claims to be a
“Retired Law enforcement Officer” that is another
lie.
He
also claimed to be a Vietnam Veteran on the USA
Transport Vietnam Association web site, other genuine
Australian Vietnam Veterans have been registered on this
site. He listed his details as “Jim Patterson 32
Small Ships Squadron Royal Australian Engineers and 30
Terminal Squadron Royal Australian Engineers” that
information is false. He was never a member of either
of those units that served in Vietnam.
On a
genealogy web site Patterson wrote the following:

Patterson did not serve in the Australian Regular Army (ARA)
at any time in any capacity.
“RSA
Badge”, appears to be a typographical error “RAS Badge”
was intended? (Returned from Active Service Badge) he
does not have one nor is he entitled to one.
We
have Patterson’s full CMF pay records for the period
he claims to have served in Vietnam. According to
these records He was never transferred to CMF Full
Time Duty and only ever received pay for CMF part
time duty. We hold his complete pay record from
1965 to 1968, this is the period he claims to have
served on ships servicing Australian Forces in
Vietnam

Patterson has been an active participant in Veterans
networks particularly that of Allen J Petersen. Here are
examples of how he put himself forward as an old soldier
and experienced veteran. His email address is
“Aussisoljer” and he signs off as “Jim Patterson an
Old Engineer” and also “30 Terminal Squadron and
32 Small Ships Squadron” Patterson was never posted
to either of those units, he has inserted them to give
the impression that he served with units that served in
Vietnam. In this exchange he takes to task a genuine
veteran
From:
Aussisoljer@aol.com
To:
petersaj@bigpond.net.au
Sent:
Monday, 12 November 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: TOUGH DECISION ?
I
don't get into arguments but in this instance I want to
assist George.
So he
was a storeman with RAEME and the other guy was a
platoon SASR soldier, bloody hell wonder where he
got his equipment, his ammo, his rations, from??
Maybe the tooth fairy, every soldier that served in
Vietnam , Borneo was supplied by other soldiers,
irrespective of the Corps they were in, everyone who
served in Vietnam served with distinction. Funny we
did supply runs to Borneo saw shit but then we were
Transportation and we flew our own ensign, but wait we
not the B all to end all.
If you wanted armour backup wonder who brought it
across, hang on it floated, if you wanted a salvo wonder
who brought it across, the tooth fairy of course.
Not everything came by aircraft you know, wonder who
loaded the ships ?and it wasn't the navy, and who
unloaded them again it wasn't the navy.
Mate I don't care if your a pogo, a backyard Johnny, or
a front liner, but my SASR mates don't go on like this
smart arse, they respect each and every person who
served and I do know what Bob Buick did and I do know
what a lot of 6 RAR blokes think of him, but I don't
hold grudges - you owe a veteran whom serve and apology
or your don't apologise in the "SPOOKS" you to highly
trained in your tooth fairy mind because you to higher a
class than the ordinary soldier.
JIM Paterson
30 Terminal Squadron/32 Small ship Squadron RAE
Aussisoljer
And if you have a problem with me get over it!
From:
aussisoljer@aol.com
To:
petersaj@bigpond.net.au
Sent:
Tuesday, 20 May 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re SAS TRUST FUND..
Sorry
xxxxxxxx
I'm
not a bleater, I'm a educated person, can you please
explain to this poor little baggy arse Engineer where
is the justice in one Regiment (SASR) being given $10
million for a trust fund whilst others are given scraps
?
Where is the justice of other ex servicemen who served
in the uniform of this country willing to lay down their
lives for this country, hurt on duty either in a active
zone or peace time operation (which I believe this trust
is about) and they or their associations not given the
same gratitude.
I don't know your background nor do I want to know but
FAIRNESS and EQUALITY were and are a big thing in my
book and we have laws of this country that say that
is called DISCRIMINATION ACT we also had MATESHIP .
This is sorry to say discriminating , one ex service
person against another, virtually saying either you a
SASR person, your entitled or your ordinary serviceman
Navy, Army Air Force and your not.
I could be wrong but as a
person who wore the uniform proudly of this country ,
and have mates who served in SASR, feel that we all
should be treated equally- we all shared the same
rigours, the same food, the same incidents, and lost the
same colour blood and friends, so please tell the
Incapacitated, the maimed why this regiment should be
singled out and the amount of $10 million not given to
ALL deserving ex servicemen.
And who cares if a Lt Col didn't go out on patrol I
don't think any one of them did, but I did see a few
Majors, Captains, Lieutenant down out there,
chain of command brother and before you go off I was a
corporal not an officer, and proud of my service and
Esprit de Corps .
Jim Patterson
an Old Engineer
In the
emails above Patterson alludes to having made voyages to
Borneo he says “Funny we did supply runs to Borneo
saw shit but then we were Transportation and we flew
our own ensign, but wait we not the B all to end all”
In the
second example he says “he has seen a few Majors,
Captains and Lieutenants out on patrol” thus
inferring that he has been on operational service.
We
have much more evidence of Patterson’s allusions of
serving in Vietnam. Should the need arise it can be
released.
Although in one of his emails he says “He is an educated
person” it is clear that he is far from that, however
like most wannabes he is rat cunning and relies on the
vulnerability of honest people to believe him on face
value. Also like other wannabes he lacks the in depth
knowledge of how efficiently the Defence Force Operated
and the extent of evidence available to counter rat
cunning wannabes.
Patterson has not worn medals he is not entitled to (He
claims to have thrown them away) he has fooled many
people into believing he is a veteran of the Vietnam
war. He is not a veteran he is an ex Citizens Military
Forces soldier who had the opportunity to transfer to
the Australian Regular Army and serve in Vietnam, he
didn’t do that, he choose instead to pretend to be a
veteran and bask in the kudos associated with that
status, now he can suffer the consequences of his
dishonesty and theft of honour by featuring on this web
site where he belongs.
25 Jul 2009

A
photograph of Patterson has come to light and has been
inserted into our original exposure. Until now we had
no evidence of Patterson wearing Vietnam war medals. He
previously claimed to have thrown them away soon after
they were presented to him, we assume, this dreamed up
action, was some kind of "heroic" rebellion against the
horrors of war.
We
have now received conclusive evidence that Patterson has
worn Vietnam Medals on ceremonial occasions. He again
used the “I threw the medals away” after he was knocked
back for an Australian Defence Medal. If you look
closely at the photograph you can see he is wearing
medals and also a Return from Active Service Badge
(RASB). The RASB must belong to a genuine veteran and
Patterson must have gone to deliberate and deceptive
measures to obtain it
The
photograph came with a report from a Veterans Group who
interacted with and knew Patterson well.
Here
is the report:
The
bloke you have on your web site as James Edward
Patterson is a bloke we, in the xxxxxxxx Vietnam
Veterans Reunion area of NSW, know as Jim Patterson.
The
Army Number on his Paysheet on your site is the same as
we have recorded for him.
He
came to notice as a possible wannabe in 2008 when we
became aware that he had applied for the Australian
Defence Medal and was rejected due to lack of records.
He
became the subject of plenty of discussion at the
reunion held in xxxxxxxxx in Nov 08 and a bloke from
Sydney said that when this rejection was done he threw
his medals (the ones he had worn to our reunions) into
the harbour at Sydney. It was also mentioned that his
membership to 32 Small Ships Sqn had been cancelled.
The
we I mentioned are the Vietnam Veterans here in
xxxxxxxxxxxx.
This is the second shock we have received. The first
being mother Quick and now Jim Patterson - both known to
many in the xxxxxxxxx and blokes that we just accepted
as being Viet vets.
On
the photo attached you can see he is wearing four
medals, a returned from active service badge and a RSL
Sub Branch badge. It was taken at the 2004 xxxxxxx
Vietnam Veterans Reunion at Albury NSW.
If
any further info comes to hand I'll let you know
Regards,
Patterson must be shunned by all ex Service
Organisations because by word and deed he is a wannabe
who deliberately deceived his Veteran “mates”
Patterson has committed crimes against the Defence Act
by wearing medals he is not entitled to wear. Although
we continually expose and parade wannabes before law
enforcement authorities they ignore our actions,
apparently they have the audacity to believe that the
honour of Veterans and the supreme sacrifice made by
many of our kind are just not in the public interest.
Such an attitude is a gross insult and unworthy of
decent Australians.
ANZMI
is committed to exposing frauds and impostors in the
veteran community. Be an impostor at your own peril,
eventually we will get you just as we have got Patterson
and many others.
31st Oct 2009
Update
Patterson’s curse
Farmers are inflicted with the dreaded weed called
Patterson’s curse. Veterans have a similar affliction
and that is the curse of Jim Patterson the liar, fraud
and wannabe. To say that Patterson is the fundamental
orifice of a horse is to insult horses. He uses the
email name and address of
Aussisoljer@aol.com Like the weed Patterson’s
curse, Jim Patterson is a worthless entity who fails to
apologise for his offence and continues with his wannabe
antics.
Aiding
and abetting Patterson is a dill and failed soldier
named Terry Westerway of Sydney. Westerway is a member
of the Mad Galah organisation that is the shame of the
Australian Veteran community. Have a look at the garbage
that Westerway has written in relation to defending the
unrepentant wannabe Patterson.
"From: Terry
Westerway
To:
Cc: Jim Patterson ; Allen Petersen
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:24 PM
Subject: FW: NSW apology
Mr xxxxxxxxx,
I presume that you have not answered Jim Patterson's
email (below).
In so far as you (reportedly) said that you "had sent
all relevant paperwork to ANZMI and your Legal
representatives", can I reasonably assume that,
therefore, you are the author of the letter/email to
ANZMI on or about 25 July 2009 (attributed to the "xxxxxxxx
Vietnam Veterans reunion") and the person who sent the
photograph alleged to be of Jim Patterson at the "xxxxxxxxx
Vietnam Veterans reunion" in Albury?
Can I reaonably assume that the substitution of "xxxxxxx"
for the actual name is an ANZMI alteration to your
original email? If that is so, then would it not be
proper to either insist that "xxxxxxx" be removed and
the correct name subsituted - or - to openly identify
the group that you refer to? Is there something that you
wish to conceal in permitting the substitution? If so,
why? What have you to hide? If you truly believe what
you say, would it not be proper to identify the group?
I wonder whether you have actually consulted a
reasonable number of those who attended the reunion as
to the malfeasances of which you complain?
As to the photograph, was it a photgraph personally
obtained by you? If not, would it not be appropriate to
identify the person who obtained the photograph - and a
statement from that person as to his intentions in
taking the photograph and the precise time and date on
which the photograph was obtained?
As it stands, the evidenciary value of your (assumed)
letter and the photograph are (on the best possible
interpretation) of no evidenciary value whatsoever.
Evidence, if it is to be relied upon, must identify the
person who obtained the "evidence" and the circumstances
under which the evidence was obtained.
In regard to the photograph, ANZMI make certain remarks
about the medals being worn - but that conclusion is not
immediately clear from the photograph itself. If the
person taking the photograph had intended to identify
the medals for the purposes of evidence, surely it would
have been appropriate to take a clearer photo of the
medals? You and ANZMI make certain assumptions about the
medals etc, but those assumptions are not immediately
clear from the photograph. As "evidence" the photo in
itself is of no value.
Moreover, much of your (assumed) letter relies upon
prior statements made by ANZMI about Jim Patterson's
service - a poor substitute for actual evidence. The
simple fact is that ANZMI make anonymous allegations and
provide copies of documents - the providence of which is
not in evidence (that is, unless the origin of documents
is attested to by an identified person, they are of no
evidenciary value).
As I have pointed out before, if Jim Patterson takes it
into his head to issue legal proceeding against you, you
have no defence, because you rely upon ANZMI who are
hardly likely to step out into the sunlight to support
your argument.
Your (assumed) letter also links Jim Patterson to
someone called "Mother Quick" and certainly implies that
whatever "Mother Quick" is alleged to have done, Jim
Patterson is also tainted by some assumed similarity
with the matter of "Mother Quick". That is (on the most
generous interpretation) "guilt by association" - if we
are to follow that principle, is it not reasonable to
associate you with ANZMI and all of its error,
omissions, unsubstantions and assumptions?
May I say, from my perspective, you are a person who
lacks the intestinal fortitude and the cojones to stand
out and openly make your allegations. And, in my view,
makes your allegations worthless. There is an Old
English word that I feel applies to you. The word is "nithing"
- it means a person of no vaue, a person whose word is
worthless.
By the way, I am still waiting for a visit from the
Australian Federal Police (or the NSW Police for that
matter) and/or a formal letter from your legal advisors.
Tell them to hurry up will you?
Terry Westerway
(That bloke from Liverpool)"
Westerway
is the self appointed legal eagle for the Mad Galahs he
fills his email with legal mumbo jumbo, when the crux of
the matter is -
Did
Jim Patterson serve in Vietnam - The answer to that
question is no.
Does
Jim Patterson still claim to be a Vietnam Veteran - The
answer to that question is yes.
Has
he worn medals that he is not entitled to wear - The
answer is yes.
Is
there evidence to prove this - The answer is yes, see
the photo on the original entry.
Mad
Galahs and Terry Westerway in particular should be
despised by decent veterans for the irrational support
of wannabe scum like Jim Patterson. There is only one
thing lower than a wannabe and that is a person who
supports a wannabe.
After being exposed as a liar, cheat and wannabe
Patterson ducked his head and shut up for a few
months, but now this noxious weed is attempting a
come back through his good mates the Mad Galahs who
just love liars and cheats like Jim Patterson.
In April and July 2009 we presented overwhelming
evidence of Patterson’s offences against veterans
integrity. Patterson is an ex part time soldier who
never left Australian shores but has for years claimed
to be a Vietnam Veteran.
The
only place this mongrel can find a friend in the veteran
community is with the Mad Galahs who attract odd balls
and misfits like moths to a candle. Surely they must
see, that like some of their other members who also
appear on our pages, Patterson is persona non gratia,
as far as veterans are concerned.
As
a result of our previous Patterson update, Patterson
had the audacity to act the hurt innocent and to
threaten to sue a real veteran for telling the truth
about him. Read what he had to say in the two emails
shown below.
His
threats of legal action are typical of wannabes and
should be taken with a grain of salt, he is a proven
liar and any Judge would probably declare him a
vexatious litigant if he tried it on.
Some good advice to Patterson is – Do not
continue to offend the veteran community with
your presence, nick off, you are not a veteran
and you are not welcome in the veteran
community.
From:
Aussisoljer@aol.com
To:
petersaj@bigpond.net.au
Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: Mad galahs membership..
Allen, Could you get the secretary to please
forward to me a membership form of this
organisation, as I have just read on the avm
website list number 61 of the 10 October, 2009
that I am a member but never joined, and I deem
that most inappropriate and apologise for not
joining earlier. I do look forward to receiving
my full engraved "Mad Galah" badge etc.
I think Phil Moon, Harry Kirkman,and Noel Muller
would also like forms as they to were
mentioned.
Seems I get membership for outing one of there
members or because I wrote and expressed in open
forum (which I still believe is correct in this
country but not if you do so anonymously) my
opinions and I have threatened the dread word
"legal action" and being posted on the anzmi
site.
I do hope it like the Freemasons (which I am a
member by the way) which I enjoy and follow the
teachings. (see I have nothing to hide and have
papers to prove this also).
(Irrelevant paragraphs deleted)
Jim Patterson -and this is my name
Oh by the way flew Cathay pacific arrived London
25th April, 2009 left Heathrow 24 May, 2009 just
in case someone says im telling porkies!
From:
Aussisoljer@aol.com
To:
xxxxxxxxxx@bigpond.com.au ;
Sent: Saturday, 10 October 2009 10:38 AM
Subject:xxxxxxxxxxxxxx NSW apology
I have copied this email to others like you did
when you answered the ANZMI website without
consultation to me prior to putting pen to paper
and they have my permission if they need to
reprint and distribute.
I wrote to you on the 11th September, and you
replied on the 15th September, 2009 that you had
sent all relevant paperwork to ANZMI and your
"Legal representatives" I have had no
correspondence from any party on your behalf to
date.
You advised that what you wrote to others was
factual and correct , which I advised you was
incorrect. you have made no intention of
withdrawing these remarks as per your email of
the 15th September, 2009
I have made a record of interview with the
appropriate authorities and shown them all the
relevant paperwork which they find very
interesting with regard to your comments, as has
been proved to you by my email of the 11th
September, 2009.
As I have no need to be interviewed further by
any statutory body as to words written by you
about me to others and posted on a website and
the emails your wrote to others advising them to
check out a website and the "Subject of
discussion" you had with others about me without
my input in November, 2008 at a meeting of the
Riverina Vietnam Veterans reunion held in
xxxxxxxxx NSW of the weekend in November, 2008
which I was not in attendance.
As you seem that you do not need to apologise to
me please advise by the 22nd October, 2009 your
"Legal representatives" so I can institute legal
proceedings against you for the remarks and
statements you have written.
As you decline to apologise for the inept
actions on your behalf you leave me no
alternative as you have taken it upon yourself
to agree with anonymous persons writings and
"VET FROM SYDNEY" lies without checking the
facts before putting pen to paper, and by your
words you instigated by word of mouth to others.
I am requesting that this email be posted upon
any website that others may deem necessary
because you wrote without any checks being
made in support of distorted facts written by
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to ANZMI
I would also like it to be known that the person
known as xxxxxx xxxxxx is also know as "xxxxxxxxxx"
and because he is known throughout the Riverina
area, and resides in XXXXXXXX NSW, and is a
supporter of ANZMI if not a member of this
websites forum.
xxxxxxx you have till the 22nd October, 2009 to
apologise and advise what you were told and read
was in fact untrue by the persons whom told
these matters to you .
I have nothing to hide my life is an open book,
I'm told I'm "uneducated by others on the anzmi
website" which you also agreed with because you
advised that "they check everything out prior to
printing" but can assure you my integrity, self
respect, honesty and some of the material was
obtained illegally, not as advised that obtained
under the Freedom of Information Act.
I have also obtained from my old school
(private) and my certificates from various
government bodies as to my "uneducated" status
which will prove that I am not that way
inclined.
Jim Patterson
15th Sep 2012
The
Veteran community announces that James E Patterson is
the epitome of a despicable liar, fraud and recidivist
wannabe.
Despite
being comprehensively exposed, he is still pretending to
be a Vietnam Veteran to anyone who will listen.
ANZMI tentacles are wide and relentless.
In 2009
Patterson visited London, where he met a genuine USA
Vietnam Veteran. Patterson convinced this veteran that
he was also Vietnam Veteran.
In September 2012, the USA Veteran wrote to another USA
Veteran and subsequently questioned Patterson about the
ANZMI exposure he had found.
"and delight we ran into an Australian (James E
Patterson) and his wife who were on vacation...during
the course of conversation we found out that we were
both Vietnam Veterans...he told me that he was well
acquainted with the 135thAHC and that he knew some of
the Aussies and US pilots...and that he was an engineer
with the 30 Terminal Squadron and made several trip
trips to Vietnam...we exchanged emails and I promptly
lost his in a pile of brochures and just found it the
other day...I emailed him and received a warm reply
where he told me that he and his wife just returned from
a trip to the USA...I looked up his unit for the fun of
it and was directed to this link
http://www.anzmi.net/patterson/patterson.html”
The USA veteran contacted Patterson in September 2012 as
shown below:
“Morning Jim...ANZMI...tell me it ain't you, brother”
Patterson responded:
“what is ANZMI mate , if that the site that
people send to other people like Facebook and twitter,
then believe what you want, have never heard or read
the site”
In September 2012 Patterson further wrote:
“From:
Aussisoljer@aol.com
Sorry this web page doesn't open.
(Referring to ANZMI)
Where did you get this site from, as I have spoken to a
few mates whom know about this site and they tell me you
have to be invited to read what is said. So may I ask
whom invited you to this site
So I will say this, I don’t lie to people, I’m upfront,
I don’t know what is written but can assume it is
something to do with my service prior to and after I did
trips in service, with Royal Australian Engineers and
would of been written by a Christopher Brandon Cramer
whom I declined to lie for to be a extra pension if I am
right, and also had convictions squashed whilst in the
Police service,..
I really don’t care my friend, I have a life outside of
Internet bullshit and I have copies of all my records of
service, which have been certified by Australian
Government. Federal police as others have had the same
shit written about them and is false
As I said I really don’t care what idiots whom write
things about others but cannot say face to face to the
person, you can be your own judge and jury, those that
know me know what I did and that is all that matters to
me and the respect I get from them”
You can always tell when Patterson is lying because his
lips are moving.
Patterson
claims to have no knowledge of ANZMI. We have had direct
contact with him on numerous occasions.
Patterson
deliberately lies about Christopher Brandon Cramer (now
deceased) Cramer was a genuine Veteran who helped expose
Patterson and despicable untrue accusations against
Cramer are all part of Patterson’s evil twisted
personality.
Patterson finally says:
“those
that know me know what I did and that is all that
matters to me and the respect I get from them”
The only
friends that Patterson has are those, who he still has
fooled, like the Australian mob who call themselves “The
Mad Galahs” Patterson fits well into that band of
misfits, wannabes and conspiracy theorists.
This
Patterson update should send the message that wannabes
are despised all over the world by veterans of all
nationalities.
We will
keep a worldwide watch on Patterson until he realizes
that any tours he may have had to Vietnam during the war
are all dreams.
6th Oct 2012
Update James Edward Patterson - 6 October 2012
James
Edward Patterson has a fervent supporter, in the form of
a "civil investigator" and military conspiracy “expert”
named Terence Howard Westerway of
Sydney, New South Wales.
Westerway
asserts there was a deliberate conspiracy to secretly
and illegally send Citizens Military Forces (CMF)
personnel to Vietnam, and that James Patterson was one
of those secretly sent.
Westerway
was an ill disciplined Gunner (Private soldier) in the
Royal Australian Artillery Corps who enlisted in 1964
and was sacked in 1967.
Westerway
is a fool’s fool and that is apparent from his
incredibly stupid email in support of Patterson.
To this
day Patterson insists that he is a Vietnam Veteran. As
long as there are fools around like Westerway, Patterson
will continue to live a disgusting lie.
Read
below what was written by Terence Howard Westerway on 16
Sep 2012 in support of liar, fraud and wannabe James
Edward Patterson.
Morning xxx,
Irrelevant first paragraph deleted.
But to turn to Jim Patterson - as I understand it, Jim
was with the Australian Engineers, as part of the "Small
Ships Squadron", who operated a fleet of about 5 LCMs,
doing shuttle runs between Australia and Vietnam, bring
up supplies - often because the G*d Damned Seaman's
Union and Waterside Workers Union (may they rot in Hell)
often disrupted supplies to our troops in Vietnam. Most
of the Small Ships Squadron was manned by "CMF" (Citizen
Military Forces - same, same your National Guard).
To the best of my knowledge few (if any) CMF members on
the Small Ships had their trips to Vietnam recorded
(possibly because I suspect that it was illegal to
deploy CMF troops into a war zone). Accordingly, few (if
any) have a paper trail and they are not recorded with
the Honours and Awards Directorate (who handle medal
awards) as being entitled to wear Vietnam medals.
Nevertheless, there were known instances when local
commanders handed out medals anyway.
As far as I know, Jim has never sought to receive
government disability benefits, so there has been no
need to try and prove his visits to Vietnam. But Jim
would not be the only one who has no record of Vietnam -
there have been instances of even regular/conscript
soldiers, sailors and airmen having their service
records lost/misplaced/wrongly recorded. Such people
seeking to have their service/disability recognized have
had to resort to finding men they served with to testify
for them. And does DVA (Department of Veterans Affairs)
ever put them through the hoops. If Jim has nothing to
claim, going through the hoops is a waste of time and
effort - and certainly nothing he should have to do to
satisfy a bunch of ignorant anonymous bloggers.
Of course, if ANZMI had actually carried out a proper
investigation and made proper inquiries with members of
the Small Ships Squadron and looked at the operations of
"Small Ships", they might well have found people to
testify on Jim's behalf (asking him for names might have
been a good way to go). But, no, like most (if not all)
of their "investigations", they are aimed at
discrediting people against whom an allegation has been
made by carrying out a "desktop investigation". Having
had a fairly long history of investigation for legal
cases (and having to have my investigations stand up in
court) - the "investigations" carried out by ANZMI
really rub me up the wrong way.
At this point in time, Jim would be a fool to go to the
trouble of finding the evidence needed to prove his case
- because ANZMI would simply refuse to accept it. Their
own website makes it clear that once they have blogged,
the ONLY thing they will accept is an "admission of
guilt" and an apology for "lying".
It beats me why people want to be identified as a
Vietnam Veteran (I still remember the reception we got
when we came home) - but as far as I have seen, most of
the "wannabes" claim to have been "special forces" and
been involved in all sorts of (heroic) "secret missions"
that they cannot talk about. I guess it might have
something to do with the "Rambo" movies etc. I have
never yet seen any of them who claim to have been
anything as low-level as Small Ships, transport, supply
etc.
But in the end, it is up to you to decide whether you
believe Jim or not.
Terry Westerway
Westerway’s email displays a pathetic ignorance of how
the Defence Force operates. Veterans will recognize
this, and treat him and Patterson, his wannabe mate,
with the contempt they deserve.
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