claim that their records are "Secret", have been
"Sanitised" or have been "Destroyed" in an attempt to
further their standing in the Veteran community.
Some records are classified Secret when it becomes a
matter of National security. An Able-Seaman would not
fall into this category. Sanitised is a
new ‘buzz-word’ among wannabes with the implication
that should you gain access to a persons file then you
will not be able to see the complete file. Records are
never Destroyed. Some wannabes claim this has happened
and at times attempt to provide bogus proof of this.
In conjunction with this the 30 year secrecy act for
Viet Nam is over.
Sadly for wannabes and Roque Charles Hammal, the truth
always wins in the end.
Roque Charles "China’ Hammal was born in the British
colony of Hong Kong on 23 August 1952, of mixed race
parentage. He enlisted in the Royal Australian Navy
[RAN] in Sydney on 18 Oct 1969, for a period of 9
years and was allocated Service Number R106976.
At that time he was 17 years and 2 months old
and served continuously in the Navy for a period of 12
years and 17 days when he requested his own discharge,
which was granted on 4 Nov 81, with the rank of Petty
Since that date Hammal has concocted many stories
regaling his service. He carried out this litany of
half truths and fabrications to such a level whereby
people he has duped have come out in support of his
nefarious and spurious service and stated that they
had examined Hammal's service records and supposed
letters from government departments, that actually
support his stories. How wrong they were.
Below are a series of photo’s taken
at various times at official functions and parades.
Now compare these
photo’s with Hammal’s true entitlement shown here.
application for and was issued his Service Medals in
the following order:
1. Returned From Active Service Badge in 1991,
2. Viet Nam Logistics Service Medal in 1993,
3. Australian Active Service Medal 1945-75 with
Clasp: Viet Nam, in1997, and
4. Australian Service Medal 1945-75 with Clasp
FESR, in 1997.
These are all he is entitled to wear.
In addition to his real entitlement Hammal wears the
following authorised medal without being lawfully issued it and
the following "tin"/commemorative medals:
Vietnamese Campaign Medal - Instituted by the
Government of the Republic of Viet Nam and awarded to
Australians with the Queen's permission, for 181 days
continuous "Special Service" in Viet Nam or adjacent
waters between 31 July 1962 and 27 January 1973.
Service of a lesser period also qualified if brought
to an end by death due to enemy action or by being
wounded in action i.e. classified as a Battle
Casualty. Lesser service terminated by "medical"
evacuation to Australia (sickness etc.) did not
qualify. This medal is shown below. The
unlawful wearing of this medal now places him in the
position of being charged under the new act and liable
to a fine of $3300 and a maximum jail sentence of 6
Navy Tin Medals
such as the HMAS Sydney Medal - A tin
association medal which is purchased by the
wearer and has no official recognition.
This medal is shown below and is not to be
worn on an authorised rack of medals
Logistic Support Forces Medal -
A tin commemorative medal
which is purchased by the
wearer and has no official recognition.
This medal is shown below and is not to be
worn on an authorised rack of medals
Foreign Service Medal -
A tin commemorative medal which is purchased by the wearer
and has no official recognition. This
medal is shown below and is not to be worn on an
authorised rack of medals
If worn at all, these tin medals
should be worn on the right breast, inline with
awarded medals which are worn by the recipient on the
You will see from evidence produced below that ‘China’
Hammal’s real Viet Nam Service consisted of
approximately 12 hours in Vietnamese waters on the
HMAS Swan, a ship that did not anchor. An extract of
evidence from an AAT hearing on the activities of
HMAS Swan in Vietnamese waters is shown below.
For this service
he is entitled to wear the Australian Active Service
(AASM) with Clasp Viet Nam and the Viet Nam Logistics
Support Medal (VLSM)."
See the real entitlement to medals for China at the
beginning of this page.
Some of Hammal's claims of Navy service:
Claim 1. Hammal has stated "Prior to my transfer from
the Royal Hong Kong Navy in October 69 I had a short
induction period in HMAS Penguin Diving School in
February 69". See below his own words.
Fact 1. Hammal has made the claim of
transferring to the Royal Australian Navy from the
Royal Hong Kong Navy in Oct 69. His records however
show that he applied for enlistment in the RAN on 6
Aug 69 in Sydney, NSW and was enlisted on 18 Oct 69,
where he declared on his enlistment papers, D.R.1,
89/69 that he had no prior Military
childhood ( 7 & 8 yrs old) he was billeted with his
parents at HMS Tamar on Stonecutters Island (1959-60)
which was the Royal Navy shore base in Hong Kong. This
is confirmed on his Dept of Navy Personal Particulars
Form CDO 4664 dated 12 Aug 69 shown here.
would be the only contact he had with the RN. Also, on
form DR1 (Application Form For Males for Enlistment)
at para 10, "State highest education standard attained
and name of school", he has answered "Form 5, King
George Fifth School, 1969, Hong Kong.". This form
dated 6 Aug 69 is shown here.
Claim 2. Also in the statement below he claims, "When HMAS Perth had her major refits in
Sydney, I served in HMAS Parramatta during the fall of
Fact 2. From a search of posting records it is
revealed that Hammal was posted to HMAS Parramatta on
17 Oct 73 until 5 May 74. The last time HMAS
Parramatta was in Vung Tau harbour was on 22 May
71(for a period of 4 hrs 30mins). Saigon fell to North
Viet Nam 4 years later on
30 Apr 75. This is another ridiculous and laughable
Claim 3. Another
from the same statement below by
Hammal is, "During my RAN service, my records show
3088 days at sea serving as a bubblie and stoker".
(The term "bubblie" is RAN parlance for a
Clearance Diver as opposed to a ships diver)
Fact 3. Hammal’s
records show that he commenced an ABCD (Able Seaman
Clearance Diver) course at HMAS Penguin, a shore based
facility at Pittwater in Sydney, on 3 Jan 71. He
remained at HMAS Penguin until 1 March 71, a period of
8 weeks, then he was transferred to HMAS Cerberus,
another shore based facility. The length of time
required to successfully complete the ABCD course was
8 months for the 1971 course so one can see that
Hammal failed the course and could never have served
as a Clearance Diver (CD) in Viet Nam.
Claim 4. Further
to the rest of Hammal's entertaining claims as shown
below, comes the one where he states," After
a short introduction to the RAN in HMAS Cerberus I had
various duties and served in numerous ships including
a period in HMS Danae during the Viet Nam campaign".
Fact 4. A search
of HMS Danae’s (Royal Navy) crew listing (1967-71)
does not show any person named Hammal. Another absurd
claim easily disproved because the full crew listing
may be found at [bookmark us first....this will
take you away from the site]
and Hammal’s naval records do not show any posting or
attachments to not only the RN but to HMS Danae from
Claim 5. In Claim 3 above it can be seen that Hammal
has stated that, "During my RAN service, my records
show 3088 days at sea serving as a bubblie and
Fact 5. Notice
that Hammal has stated "3,088 days at sea"
not in sea
going ships but, days at sea. The claim of serving
"3,088 days at sea" is simply another
3,088 days is 8 yrs and 5 mths out of a total of 12
yrs 17 days service.
This is a list of Hammal’s postings to
sea going ships
as copied from his official Navy records.
HMAS Anzac: 20 Apr 70 to 3 Jan 71 = 258 days.
HMAS Swan: 13 Aug 71 to 21 Jan 73 = 557 days.* #
HMAS Perth: 22 Jan 73 to 16 Oct 73 = 266 days.
HMAS Parramatta: 17 Oct 73 to 04 May 74 = 198 days.
HMAS Perth: 05 May 74 to 08 Feb 76 = 643 days.
HMAS Perth: 10 Jun 77 to 02 Dec 79 = 905 days.
Total = 2827 days on sea going ships.
* While posted to HMAS Swan, Hammal had, according to
his leave record, a total of 90 days leave. Also
during this period, according to the ships movements
logs, the Swan spent 180 days in different ports. This
means that out of 557 days on this sea going ship
Hammal actually spent 287 days at sea.
# Also, it was in this period that Hammal did his one
and only visit to Viet Nam. HMAS Swan was allocated for
service from 4 Oct 71 to 14 Oct 71 and accordingly
departed Singapore on 4 Oct, met up with HMAS Sydney
on 5 Oct, arrived and left Vung Tau on 6 Oct and
arrived Manila on 14 Oct.
On both of HMAS Swan’s visits to Vung Tau, ships
records indicate that the ship never anchored at any
time thus making diving operations impossible.
Evidence from an AAT hearing confirms this as shown
Claim 6. From
Hammal’s local community newspaper, the Cockburn
Gazette, dated June 11 - June 17, 2002 in an interview
given, Hammal states, "China served in the Hong Kong
Navy and the Australian Navy for more than 12 years
which involved three years in the Viet Nam war."
Nowhere can it
be found that Hammal refuted the above claims.
Fact 6. Claims of serving in Viet Nam for 3 years are
simply ludicrous. The last RAN Escort ship in
Vietnamese waters was the HMAS Vampire which departed
the port of Vung Tau for Palau Tioman on 24 Nov 72.
Three years before this date ( 24 Nov 69) Hammal had
just enlisted in the RAN.
Claim 7. From The West Australian newspaper dated 10
June 2002 in an article written by reporter Ben Ruse,
Hammal made the statement that he, "trained as a diver
in Hong Kong and went to Viet Nam with the Royal
Australian Navy in 1969 at the age of 17."
Nowhere can it be found that Hammal has refuted this
Fact 7. As can be seen in Fact 1 above, Hammal never
enlisted in the RAN until 18 Oct 69. Taking into
account the time required for him to complete his
"rookies" course at HMAS Cerberus it is just farcical
to claim he went to Viet Nam in 1969.
It is indeed a sad day when a sailor who has done so
much for the Veteran community has to enhance his
service far beyond what he infact did during service,
as this now tarnishes everything he has done for that
Veteran community and has also caused those within
this community to rise against him and have the Order
of Australia Medal that he was offered, quashed.
Further to this Hammal had a sob story for the WA
Sunday Times, dated 14th September 2003, in which he
continues to tell his lies in an endeavour to convince
the public that he was worthy of the award.
See below, you make the judgement.
To be a
recipient of this medal, you must have a good standing
in the community and a flawless record.
Non-disclosure of discrepancies can and does see the
award rescinded. This
is unfortunate due to the outstanding work that Hammal
has done within the community, but lies and deceit are
not tolerated and the reward for this is removal of
the medal as has been the case here. Veterans
were outraged at this award and took appropriate
action to have it rescinded. This is now
going to create further expense for the Veteran
community as this plaque below displaying OAM after Hammal’s
name will have to be recast to reflect the truth. This is in
Fremantle, Western Australia.
It has been alleged that he didn’t fully understand
the form and failed to disclose a matter of
convictions from his past. It is also alleged that
because of his mixed race background he didn’t
understand the wording of the
applicable form for acceptance of the OAM. This is
refuted as he is a
British subject who’s primary language is English and
was at birth and has been the primary language used
for approximately 34 years since arriving in Australia
Over the past few years Veterans began to become aware
of the tall stories that have emanated from Hammal and
they began to check into his service
record to obtain the truth. Many Navy personnel
approached CPMH for
assistance here and we have worked quietly with the
growing number of these
Veterans who sought the truth. It has taken a number
of years and with
the assistance of all the Veterans involved we now
have the truth as you see it here on these pages.
Hard copies of these records are now in our possession
and these are what have been used to reflect the truth
shown on these pages.
CPMH makes no apology for this entry on our pages and
does not intend to pursue this into the depths of the
welfare organisation that Hammal created in Western
Australia, unless it is revealed that there are more
untruths reported by Veterans that can do damage to
the Veteran Community as a whole. This would then
become a matter for other government departments and
we would hand over any information that we uncovered
and proved, to the relevant authority for appropriate
China Hammal is a Veteran in his own right. He has
been awarded the medals as we stated above. He has no
entitlement to wear any other awards on his rack other
than those we have indicated. The Veteran Community
of Western Australia should now make him aware of this
and ensure that the “tin”and other illegal medals that he
wears are removed as they are an embarrassment to all
genuine Veterans. If Hammal is that gullible that he
has to wear tin then
they should be racked separately and worn on the right
breast, well away from his awarded medals, so that the
genuine people can have a quiet chuckle as he proudly
This applies to anyone who feels they
have a need to wear tin.
If after being advised the protocol for wearing medals
and awards he is still unsure then he should be
directed to Ex Service Organisation sites where he can
read the correct protocol for wearing medals after
discharge………All people who wear tin would be well
advised to do this as these “tin” medals are becoming
an embarrassment to us all.
The Viet Nam Campaign Medal, for 181 days "continuous
Special Service" in Viet Nam or adjacent waters, worn
by Hammal has not been awarded to him. The fines and
punishments for fraudulently wearing decorations has
just been amended in Parliament and penalties
increased quite considerably. Removal of this award
is strongly recommended or appropriate action from the
relevant authorities will be sought in the near
This photo is the
latest taken - 30 Nov 2003
and so endeth the myth of the legendary service of
this sailor. We can only hope that he wakes up to
reality now, removes the un-awarded and tin medals he
wears and continues his life as it should be, for it
is these lies and his undeclared past, that has seen
the awarding of the Order of Australia Medal
rescinded. A further conviction will be sought
if the illegal medal is not removed.
Cheers China.........the beers are
There will no doubt be many comments
passed on this site entry. Please come back and
visit again as
we will post them all here for you to see......good
and bad. Your details will be recorded by CPMH
but not displayed. This section is to
allow you to make your judgement on if we have
been fair in exposing the truth. This is the
area where you can have your say......not our guest
HAMMAL COMMENTS SECTION
The comments below will
only show which Military Service the person belonged
Sent: Friday, 26 December 2003 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: China & PERTH launch
An excellent article on CPMH. I noted that you have
concentrated on the facts and have not bought up any
information which could be labelled as "putting the
knife in" - well done.
Once again, well done on an article which should not
draw too many "brickbats" for being demeaning. It is
pure fact and that should be quite obvious to readers.
Regards and Happy New Year,
Merry Xmas and a Happy
New Year to you and yours.
Here's a snippet and
prediction . . . . .
Tenix in Williamstown
have just sent out lots of invitations to the launch
of PERTH(3), happening on Saturday 20th March 2004.
Our dearest "friend" China would have received one,
along wilt all PERTH Association members.
Here's my prediction . .
. . . I'd almost bet that China will accept the
invitation, and if he does, he'll "demand" money
from the ANVVWA ("his" welfare association) to cover
the cost of airfares and accommodation for at least
himself, and possibly his partner. Reason to be
given will be that since he is proposing to
replicate the PERTH bells, the welfare association
should pay for his attendance so he can personally
make arrangements for the bell "donation".
There is a God! You do realise that China
will bleat his innocence to anyone that will
But he didn't reckon on the care factor. WE
PS I have taken the liberty to forward that
article on to the number of ex-members of the RAN
who had the misfortune to serve with the XXX lying
Can I ring a friend?
Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 20:30 PM
Subject: Re: CHINA
Well the lies have been around
for a long time and now we finally have the
truth. There are a lot in the west who
will have egg on their face once they read this
entry. Well done CPMH. All us "real"
veterans applaud you for your efforts. Do
government departments read your site? If
they do they should gather the facts, compare it
to what they have on record and then conduct
their own investigations as there is a lot more
to this "bubblie" than you have shown here.
Congratulations on getting his OAM removed too.
He is not a worthy recipient of this award and
if he had it, it would only belittle all those
who have it or receive it in the future.
It is now up to the veterans in WA to replace
the plaque that displays his name with OAM after
it..........the bill should be sent to China for
CPMH were not responsible for the removal of the
OAM award. This was taken up by concerned
Veterans who, under their own steam ensured that
the truth was known concerning this award.
CPMH congratulates them for their concerns and
attention to this matter.
advert' says....."I don't know how he can live
CPMH, you've done a sterling job, I can only hope
someone takes the ***** to court.
I am very concerned
that your organisation has taken it upon itself
to "expose" persons who you claim to be not
entitled to wear the medals or have not served
their country in the manner which appears to be
supported by the official records of the
military system and D.V.A.
I am also very well
aquainted with China and can vouch for his
support of the veteran community in general. I
believe that I would be dead or very incapable
of looking after myself or anyone else if I had
not received some very genuine assistance from
I realise that there
are many people who do pretend to be what they
are not. These are usually detected very quickly
and do not need the national publicity of your
website to deter them from offending further
In fact, I feel very
sorry for those that feel they need to act out a
role to which they probably could never have
Your insistence that
China wears medals to which he is not entitled
is one which should be referred to the
Commonwealth Police if you have genuine
information that this is the case. You do not
have the authority to libel anyone, regardless
of the "crime" you think they may have commited.
That is exactly what you are doing and your
website and its various connections are being
investigated further to establish what charges
may be brought against you personally and anyone
else found to be linked to your site.
It would appear that
this attempt to villify various individuals may
be connected to your own shortcomings. Perhaps
you would care to make personal contact with me
through my e-mail address, I will be happy to
let you "investigate" me, but I assure you, that
I will be doing the same for you and anyone
connected with you.
I will be seeking
further information about you and will refer all
found to the appropriate authorities.
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 8:48 PM
Subject: China Hammal
error in your drivel is that HMS Tamar is not on
Stonecutters island it is situated on Hong Kong
Island . Please print only correct facts - this
includes the facts regarding the wearing of
commemorative medals and the length of navy
quotes facts one should check facts first.
Thursday, 8 January 2004 5:26 PM
To those of you at CPMH who have put China
Hammal's name up in lights on your websight, and
"exposed" him for not being entitled to wear the
Vietnam Campaign Medal, you may want to start
thinking about how you are going to pay the
defamation suit that I hope he brings against
you. The fact that not one of you have the
guts to publicly state who you are, will not
help you in the end. You will be exposed for
the world to see and there are those of us who
will ensure that your names are spread around,
just as you have spread China's name. The
difference between you and us, is that despite
your so called criteria, we will do our homework
properly and get it right before we name you.
In your report on how investigations are done
you claim that in the case of real veterans,
they are always given the chance to cease and
desist before publication. Just when did you
contact China and give him this option? You
didn't, and he would not have done so in any
case. He doesn't have to prove anything to you
anonymous cowards. Like the gutless wonders you
are, you went ahead and published this litany of
lies without even following your own guidelines
and checking the facts.
The people who have compiled the data on
China have very conveniently changed things
around to suit their own twisted ideas of what
really transpired during his service in the
RAN. Had they bothered to check the Australian
Navy in Vietnam Veterans Welfare Association (WA
Inc) website, and clicked on to "Committee,"
they would have been able to read both his
claims to wearing the Vietnam Campaign Medal and
the OAM Story. There is ample proof there
that shows he has been investigated by the
Department of Veterans Affairs, The Commonwealth
Fraud Squad, and the Vietnam Veterans
Association of Australia WA Branch Inc, all of
whom have verified his entiltlement to this
You claim that the Vietnamese Campaign Medal was
awarded with the Queen's permission for 181 days
continuous "Special Service" in
Vietnam or adjacent waters. If you had done
your homework, you would have known that no
Australian navy ship served in adjacent waters
off the coast of Vietnam for 181 continuous
days during the Vietnam conflict. The four
destroyers HMAS Perth, Hobart, Brisbane and
Vendetta were deployed for periods in excess of
six months from their home port of Sydney on
their tours of duty, but they did not serve
continuously on the Gunline for 181 days at any
time. There must have been some other criteria
for the awarding of this medal to RAN sailors.
We know what it was, why don't you?
As far as his commemorative medals are concerned,
there is no law which says he cannot wear them
wherever he likes once he becomes a civilian.
Some ex service Associations have made their own
rules about the wearing of these medals. The
Australian Navy in Vietnam Veterans Welfare
Association (WA), of which
China is the Honourable Chairman does not have
any such regulations. If he chooses to wear
them for whatever reason, that is his business,
and neither you nor any other association has
the right to say he cannot wear them. As
someone already explained to you, despite your
sarcastic remark of "yeah....right on," those of
us who served on the logistic support ships, ie
HMAS Sydney and her escorts, and were not real
heros like yourselves had to fight for many
years for recognition which was why some chose
to wear commemorative medals. Had you bothered
to do your checking on that fact, you would have
known that to be true.
The writer points out that
China's real service in Vietnam consisted of 12
hours in Vietnamese waters on HMAS Swan, and
produces a letter to back this up.
Unfortunately this letter never mentions
anything about the Swan being in Vietnamese
waters during this "Operation Awkward," which by
the way was a common operational name given to
many exercises during my 20 years in the RAN.
The letter mentions Thailand and Hong Kong but
not Vietnam and gives no dates when this
particular "Operation Awkward" took place.
China has never claimed that he was a clearance
diver in the RAN. He wore a cuff rate (badge)
on his uniform to indicate that he was a ship's
diver. Under no circumstances would he have
been able to wear this badge and perform diving
duties if he was not qualified to do so. As
one of his Petty Officers on HMAS Perth in 1973,
I distinctly remember that China was often
required to perform diving duties (Bubblie) as
opposed to Engineering duties (Stoker), and for
that reason whilst on the Engineering Watchbill,
most of his duties allowed him to be freed up
quickly for diving duties if required.
Your writer disputes
China's claim that he served on HMS Danae for a
period of time during the Vietnam conflict, and
provides a website that lists the ships crew
from 1967-71. A check of this website reveals
that it primarily concerns HMS Danae's first
commission from 1967-69, when it returned to the
UK, and lists the crew for that period of time.
It does not show any deployment details past
October 2, 1969, which was before China enlisted
in the RAN. China could very well have been
posted to HMS Danae on temporary duties during
his service and it would not necessarily show up
in his Service Records. Since you guys are so
clever and have access to everything, it should
be a simple matter for you to cross reference
HMS Danae's later deployments and those of the
RAN ships China was on and see if you can match
up anything. You might just be surprised.
Many of these types of posting were logged only
by confirmation signals between ships and
c.c.'d to relevant authorities in Navy
Office. During my time on HMAS Perth in 1981,
I did temporary exchange duties with USS Charles
F Adams for about five days in the
This is not listed on my Service Records. My
service records also do not indicate that whilst
serving at sea, I was hospitalised at HMAS
Penguin for a week on two occasions. This is
confirmed by my medical records.
In China's claim that he served at sea for a period of
time, your writer is clutching at straws by
stating that he served on "sea going ships" as
opposed to being "at sea." In the RAN a
person is posted either to shore or to sea.
That the ship may not be underway, does not
diminish the fact that a person is classified as
being "at sea." by Navy Office. A special
payment called Hard Laying Allowance was paid to
all sailors serving on ships irrespective of
whether the ship was actually underway or
sitting in dry dock, and an extra two weeks
leave per year was granted to these sailors to
compensate for the fact that they were at sea
and living in abnormal conditions compared to
their counterparts on shore based postings.
China's service record indicates that he spent
an extraordinary amount of time at sea from
April 1970 until December 1979. This is
completely out of proportion to the normal
sea/shore ratio for engineering sailors of his
rank during that time, which was approximately
two and a half years at sea followed by 18
months in a shore posting. It appears that his
only shore time was taken to allow him to do the
necessary courses required for further training
and promotion. Perhaps your writer can explain
It has already been shown that just because a person
was posted to a ship, doesn't necessarily mean
that he was actually on the ship for the full
period of time without going elsewhere.
China joined the RAN in October 1969, Saigon
fell in 1975. China has stated he served for
12 years in the RAN, which involved 3 years in
the Vietnam War. He has also stated he was sent
to HMAS Parramatta during HMAS Perth's refit in
Sydney and was on that ship during the fall of
did not actually fall until 1975, the writing
was on the wall long before that time and the
Americans had started a massive pull out. HMAS
Parramatta was in Asian waters during that time
when the Americans started to pull out of
Vietnam. That is the period of time China
refers to during his HMAS Parramatta sea
service. Simply because a particular ship
that he was on was not actually in Vietnamese
waters has no bearing on where China might have
been at any time during his service career.
His claim is for 207 days in
If you had bothered to check the movements of
the ships he served on from 1970 until his
return to HMAS Perth in May 1974, you might have
realised that most of the times these ships were
in Asian waters.
Your writer conveniently supplied me with
China's leave record for his period of 18 months
service on HMAS Swan. He states that China
had 90 days leave. RAN regulations would only
have entitled him to 63 days for that length of
time on a ship. So how did he manage to get
an extra 27 days? Where was he, and when was
this leave taken in relation to the ships
Your claim that an Able Seaman (ie
China) would never have records classified
"Secret" and be destroyed are also false. If
you bothered to check the ANVVWA website there
is a letter from the Department of Defence
confirming that China's files namely,
Postings/Transfers of Branch Files, Removals and
Associated Allowances Files and Overseas
Allowances Files were destroyed in 1990 and 1989
respectively. Why would an Able Seaman have
these files destroyed? If there were nothing
in these files that were not "Undicloseable,"
why were they destroyed? China's Service
Rankings do not have any bearing on what he
actually did or where he went at various times
during his RAN career. This is what you
people have not and cannot establish.
You congratulate some Veterans for ensuring that
China's OAM was rescinded. It is a pity that
these small minded people didn't clean up their
own backyards first. They live in glass
houses, and shouldn't throw stones. China
never asked for this award, and it was other
Veterans who nominated him for it in the first
place in appreciation for all he has done for
the Veteran community, irrespective of which
Service they served in.. He filled in the
appropriate forms correctly and answered all
questions asked of him honestly. It is only a
few senile old fools in other Associations,
jealous of China's standing in the community,
who are trying to bring him down. This is
known as the Tall Poppy Syndrome. If they
really are that upset about his name and OAM
post nominals appearing on the plaque, then let
them replace it at their cost. The rest of us
don't care. If it wasn't for China's efforts,
the Monument to RAN Personnel who served and
lost their lives in Vietnam would not even be
there. He got off his arse and made it happen.
China's mates will stand by him, and like him,
we don't give a toss about you, or the rest of
the backstabbers. You people have no right to
set yourselves up as Judge, Jury and
Executioners. If you believe you are correct
in your assassination of China's character, then
I challange all of you responsible for compiling
and publishing these accusations to at least
have the intestinal fortitude to put your names
to the accusations. If you believe you have
the proof, take it to the appropriate
authorities for them to investigate properly.
7th March 2009
Hammal has had his TPI Special Rate
reinstated – this is a scandalous affair and
a sad day for the veteran community
Chairman of the Australian Naval Vietnam
Veterans Welfare Association (ANVVWA) Peter
Denver has gleefully advised that China
Hammal has had his TPI, Special Rate
reinstated. Reinstatement has been verbally
confirmed by the Department of Veterans
Affairs and it is a sad day for truth,
honesty and the integrity of Veterans
everywhere. This is what Denver has written:
“Quite often I get asked how our Association
founder is getting on these days. Those of
you that know China Hammal are probably
aware that there were people in the veteran
community that did not like him, and
complained to DVA that his status as a TPI
was not based on service related conditions.
These complaints resulted in DVA
investigators coming to the conclusion that
he was not entitled to his TPI pension, and
subsequently took it off him. As a result
of these malicious complaints from other
veterans, he had no money, had been advised
he had to repay over $230,000 to DVA, was
unable to work, was reduced to handouts from
charitable organizations, and was often on
the very edge of giving up the will to
Those of us who knew the man, refused to
accept the decision by the DVA
investigators, and we stood along side him
as mates. We supported and assisted him
financially to survive, helped him to get
his VRB Appeal together, and he finally had
his day at the VRB in January 2008.
The VRB heard his appeal, and they accepted
the evidence that China presented, that his
claim was genuine. This was the same
evidence, that China had advised the DVA
investigators was available if they would
look at it during their investigation.
They did not do it. China won his appeal
and his TPI status was restored. He
received all the back pay that had been
withheld. DVA have not lodged an appeal
against the decision handed down by the VRB.
What those people who call themselves
veterans did to another veteran was
unforgivable in my book. They are not
worthy of the title veteran. The truth
China Hammal was the founder of ANVVWA and
was well known for his ability to “sell”
pensions to his Pusser mates. “Just sign
the blank application, tell China on which
ships you served and he would conjure up all
kinds of trauma stressors to get you the TPI
Special Rate, and of course there was the
donation to ANVVWA for services rendered.”
There are many smiling ex Pussers in the
Perth WA area who benefited greatly, but
dishonestly from China’s legerdemain.
After reading the original ANZMI reports on
China you will understand that he was/is a
thoroughly dishonest and unprincipled human
Before China was re-instated an article in
the ANVVWA Newsletter was included, begging
for funds to “Bring China Back to Perth for
ANZAC Day 2009”. Here is the article:
HELPING A MATE
Some of you may remember our Association
founder China Hammal, and may be aware of
the disgusting inquisition that he had to
endure at the hands of DVA investigators in
which he lost his TPI status as a result of
complaints that were made against him by
other veterans in the community, who for
reasons best known to themselves decided
that he was not entitled to his TPI. I am
sure that those of you who know him are also
aware that he won his case at the VRB, and
his TPI was restored.
Sadly there are still people out there who
will not let it go, and they continue to
hassle him about the medals he wears, which
he believes he is entitled to wear, and
which his detractors have never proved that
he is not entitled to wear them. This has
upset him so much that he no longer
participates in Remembrance Day, Vietnam
Veterans Day, or ANZAC Day Services and the
march in NSW where he now lives.
A motion was put forward at our last
Association meeting that we try and get
China over here for ANZAC Day 2009. His
financial situation is such that he cannot
afford to pay his own way over here, as he
is still trying to repay debts as a result
of losing his TPI. It was agreed that we
would try and raise the cost of his return
airfare amongst ourselves. As such we have
started a private fund raiser in the office
called "China Hammal – ANZAC Day 2009."
Please Note: No Association Funds will be
used for this cause.
Anyone who would like to help us get China
over here for ANZAC Day 2009 so he can be
with his mates on this important day in the
veteran community, can send a donation to
our office either by cheque or money order
made out to Peter Denver our ANVVWA
Chairman or Carole Matthews our ANVVWA
Secretary. Please include a note saying it
is for "China Hammal - ANZAC Day 2009", and
not a donation to our Association. You will
be issued with a receipt provided you
include your return address, and the money
will be kept in a private safe until we have
sufficient to purchase his return airfare.
Any money left over after purchasing his
plane ticket, from the donations received
will be given to China as a gift from his
mates to help him out financially. In the
event that this falls through, and he does
not come over, you will be given a refund of
your donation less any postage costs etc.
Further details including amount raised,
when and where you can catch up with him
will be detailed in the March 2009
China helped a lot of people out there, and
I'm sure that some of you would like to
catch up with him again
China Hammal and the ANVVWA must have a
filing cabinet full of information about
bogus DVA claims lodged from Hammal and his
mates. It is guaranteed that there are many
nervous Pussers from the area who would show
great generosity and donate to China to keep
We urge honest veterans to express their
dismay at the words and actions of Chairman
Peter Denver and this ex RAN Welfare
Association and also suggest to DVA, that
during their idle time they recheck any DVA
benefits claims handled by China Hammal and
his mates. Once you know what to look for
you may find many anomalies and make some
smiles disappear from ANVVWA members.
Like in the ANZMI case of Joe Brain (see
another crook walks away from DVA laughing.
It is time the Australian Federal Police
extended their bailiwick to include cases of
DVA fraud. It is a simple fact that the
current investigation section of DVA lack
the expertise to bring to justice the clever
major players involved in DVA fraud.
We are reliably advised that a major ESO
commanded from Western Australia was well
aware of the nature of China’s operation of
ANVVWA, however the potential for membership
from the efforts of Hammal and his mob was
obviously more important to them than
honesty and ethics. Those who have
knowledge about this issue are advised to
come forward and advise either ANZMI at
email@example.com or DVA.
DVA are urged to take action to appeal the
Hammal VRB decision and again take away that
which he has fraudulently gained.